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Les tribunaux sociaux ne sont pas comp\u00e9tents pour un tel litige. La question de savoir si un litige est de nature civile ou de droit public d\u00e9pend de la nature du rapport juridique dont d\u00e9coule la r\u00e9clamation. Ce qui importe est de savoir si les faits pr\u00e9sent\u00e9s \u00e0 l&rsquo;appui de l&rsquo;action sont influenc\u00e9s par des principes juridiques de droit civil ou de droit public pour les cons\u00e9quences juridiques qui en d\u00e9coulent. La question de savoir si l&#8217;employeur a l&rsquo;obligation de d\u00e9clarer le salari\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;agence de recouvrement est d\u00e9termin\u00e9e conform\u00e9ment aux r\u00e8gles de d\u00e9claration des assurances sociales du SGB IV. Cela n&rsquo;entre pas en conflit avec le fait que les r\u00e8gles de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale peuvent \u00e9tablir une obligation secondaire de l&#8217;employeur sur la base de l&rsquo;article 242 du Code civil allemand (BGB). Son contenu est d\u00e9termin\u00e9 par les r\u00e8glements du SGB VI. Il n&rsquo;existe pas de r\u00e9glementation sp\u00e9cifique du droit du travail qui d\u00e9termine quand et avec quel contenu un tel rapport doit \u00eatre \u00e9tabli. Le rapport que l&#8217;employeur soumet conform\u00e9ment \u00e0 l&rsquo;article 28 a al. 1 \u00e0 3 SGB IV doivent \u00eatre soumis \u00e0 la caisse d&rsquo;assurance maladie. Il ne s&rsquo;agit pas non plus d&rsquo;un document de travail au sens de du \u00a7 2 al. 1 n\u00b0 3 lettre e ArbGG. Conform\u00e9ment au \u00a7 12, paragraphe. 1 Phrase 1 ArbGG, dans la proc\u00e9dure de jugement du tribunal du travail en premi\u00e8re instance, la partie gagnante n&rsquo;a pas droit au remboursement des frais engag\u00e9s pour engager un repr\u00e9sentant l\u00e9gal. 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